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Post by Shevy on Jul 20, 2004 1:35:34 GMT -5
It's not very often these days that I get hate mail, so the hate mail I do get I tend to cherish. None the less, I got this little gem this morning. It's a good laugh.
man your review just was stupid as a nu metal person who thinks they
"know"
death metal, for you to say BENT BACKWARDS AND BROKEN is boring, your
fucking stupid man, can you even fucking hear there are 4 guitars
playing
POLYPHONIC riffs, all swriling together to make one cosmic sound, what
the
fucks with you and pinch harmonics? you focus on all the wrong things
like
how a kick drum sounds NU METAL, are you fucking handicapt man? drums
are
drums beats are beats, there is no fucking "nu metal" kick drum thing,
its
just a standard beat, learn your fucking musical theory before you go
claiming what is good and isnt, cause frankly your one stupid fucker..
Note: He's talking about a Cannibal Corpse review. Not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Post by 1:( on Jul 20, 2004 6:04:26 GMT -5
This kind of thing is exactly why I don't make my email address public(unless I have a KitF email and don't even know it)
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Post by Shevy on Jul 20, 2004 7:19:18 GMT -5
If I can ever change the hosting over to Detroit-Online we can all have our own E-Mail addresses. Until then, it's pretty much just one address.
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Post by unclemeat on Jul 20, 2004 8:15:01 GMT -5
My Hero
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 20, 2004 9:26:13 GMT -5
AHHH a ligitimate question from an illigitamate child....
Listen here Pablo. I'm only going to say this once so you better be listening.....
"If you listen carefully, the double bass is in sync with the guitars when they "triple pick." That ladies and gentleman is a Chimaira, Fear Factory, Metallica trick a.k.a. a "nu metal" move that usually involves triggers. " Yes, I said that and I meant every damn word if it. Maybe "Nu-Metal" is not the term for it, but you have to admit that comming from Corpse, that's really really weak.
"Bent Backwards And Broken - I think I heard this song already on this album. If not then I just think I did. BORING" Yep, I said that too. and I am goddamn aware that it's four seperate guitar tracks that are played with perfect timing to make the swirl. But, wouldn't you think that with ONE guitarist (Pat O'Brien) doing the work, he could havecome up with something just plain better than that song?
Now you can sit there with your Smirnoff Ice (the weakest of all alcoholic beverages) and tell me what's what. But up here, we drink Whiskey and I will obiterate your posh, lavish lyfestyle right now. Consider this... Pat did claim (on the making of Wretched Spawn DVD) that Bent Backwards and Broken was the hardest song he's ever done on that album. But not for the technical difficulty. It was for the TIMING! TIMING? Cannibal Corpse is not about MATH. Timing, although important, shouldn't be the mainstay of a Corpse song. Are you seriously going to tell me that Bent Over and Broken is better than PERVERSE SUFFERING, PSYCHOTIC PRECISION, FRANTIC DISEMBOWELMENT, STARING THROUTH THE EYES OF THE DEAD, SHE WAS ASKING FOR IT, POUNDED INTO DUST, DEAD HUMAN COLLECTION, OR ANY OTHER SONG THAT INVOLVES MORE CHOPS, HARMONICS, TRANSITIONS, THAN BENT OVER AND BROKEN???
I don't care how much effort they put into it. It's BORING! Hell, some bands best albums are done in less than 2 days. Sometimes too much time and effort ruin a song or album. This is one of those times in which Bent Over and Broken took a lot of time to create a BORING song.
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 20, 2004 9:27:51 GMT -5
oh yeah and FUCK THE SAD FACE!!!
Skin Splitter has spoken....
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 20, 2004 9:39:37 GMT -5
somehow my direct quote involving M*tallica was substituted for GAY SEX WITH MEN. I think that heightens the sentence structure and acutally makes it more true...
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Post by Shevy on Jul 20, 2004 9:51:57 GMT -5
Ha ha ha! Awesome.
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Post by 1:( on Jul 20, 2004 10:01:01 GMT -5
somehow my direct quote involving M*tallica was substituted for GAY SEX WITH MEN. I think that heightens the sentence structure and acutally makes it more true... More proof that the word editor really works. My bad. |
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Post by Shevy on Jul 20, 2004 10:49:41 GMT -5
Back to the subject at hand...
I'll choose great song writing ability over musicianship all day long. I could care less how skilled so-and-so is at playing their given instrument. If you can't write a song worth listening to, what's the point?
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 20, 2004 11:24:30 GMT -5
well, I mean there is good writing, great playing. and it can still sound like ass! I dont' care how many times you dub. Led Zepplin, overdubbed all the damn time. 4 guitar parts were childsplay. Hell, He's the sloppiest player EVER. and GOOD BLESS HIM FOR IT!!!
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Post by 1:( on Jul 20, 2004 12:07:27 GMT -5
I think overdubbing sounds like shit.
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 20, 2004 13:31:39 GMT -5
for the most part yes, Plus, it ruins the live sound. If you only have one guitarist, why do two separate tracks? if you can't relicate it live, don't do it or get a stand in guitarist to help. or two drummers, to bass players. Whatever, a touring bitch.
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Post by Shevy on Jul 20, 2004 22:15:49 GMT -5
So anyway, I E-Mail this guy back and say... " If you consider Cannibal Corpse interesting, your opinion is invalid by default. None the less, I will be sure to pass along your ironic little E-Mail to Skin Splitter so we can all laugh at it." A little bit later, I also E-Mail him this... " I liked your E-Mail so much I started a thread on my message board about it. Skin Splitter has posted a reply if you would care to read it:
kitf.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1090305334
I'd like to invite you to sign up on our board to discuss your opinion. Have a good one" So I guess he doesn't want to sign up on our message board and defend his opinion. None the less, he did E-Mail me back... " if you think your review was good, i laugh at you, you just speak like
a
fucking fool, i can tell you know no fucking musical theory, or it
would
have showed in your review, your just stupid,i like much brutal shit
then cc
yes, but to say bent backwards and broken is stupid your one fucked
person,
lets see you fucking play it??? huh can ya huh? i think not  so shut
up
and put more into your fucking reviews! "the word "chaotic" like wtf?
you
use it 49 times in a span ov 3 reviews lmao, you call me the stupid
one,
your the fool saying all the same bullshit over and over, and btw, the
bleeding is good, but not as good as you think. bloodthrist is the BEST
cannibal corpse album, lets see you play Dead Human Collection or
Hacksaw
Decapitation" He also wrote... " Gotta paste it on a message board to have all your little fucking
friends
help you insult me ehh? very big lol, read his reviews man they are
fucking
stupid you gotta admit it (cept the bleeding review) that was a good
one,
just his new ones, he disses music that is natrually BETTER then
anything
off the bleeding, to not understand pat obrien is to deny fucking
BRUTAL
DEATH METAL, jack is NOTHING on the ALMIGHTY pat so weap you stupid
bastards
cause its true, pat rules jack!" This guy is just too funny. I love it when people use the excuse, "Well, I bet you can't play it". That translates into, "I'm out of idea's to argue and my opinion is practically worthless". I can't play pro football, but that doesn't mean I can't tell that Ryan Leif sucked. |
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Post by 1:( on Jul 21, 2004 6:54:19 GMT -5
I hate these music snob people. One thing that pisses me off about some of my friends is the way they only listen to music they think is "talented" and say shit like "tone is very important". Important? No it's not. I've heard countless bands with guitar and bass tone that sounded like diarrhea and still rocked. Bullshit.
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Post by LordagathIscariot on Jul 21, 2004 8:03:18 GMT -5
You people make me laugh lmao, I seen this review on here, I looked at EVERY single one i could, This one was the most childish, You dont make any sense about anything and all you do about the new album is say stupid ill logic thing's. If you HONESTLY think the bleeding and ANY old cannibal corpse song is better then PAT'S BRUTAL RIFFING, you got something wrong with you. i say brutal riffing on the mode work he can do, not as much his solo's but his chops are just so much more insane, like Dead Human Collection, Hacksaw Decapitation,Blowtorch Slaughter,Sanded Faceless. I love Old Cannibal Corpse dont get me wrong. But there new shit is so much more brutal guitar wise. I Love Polyphonic Riffs, Ie Moribid Angel are the gods, Gorguts are amazing as well. Bloodthist cant be beat for guitar. you can have your personal preference on which album you like, but you have to admit bloodthrist gore obsessed and the wretched spawn have opened a new door for CC, and that is much more brutal guitar work, come on ppl i know you all KNOW this!
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 21, 2004 8:13:10 GMT -5
oh my fucking wow....
In order for there to be an argument, one must base thier response on FACTS. not interpertations. FACTS
"i like much brutal shit then cc" ahhh the value of conjunctions... a common flaw amungst foreing exchange students...
If you were playing any attention... What I said was that I CAN'T PLAY Dead Human Collection. and probably not Hacksaw Decapitation. But, I CAN play Bent over and Broken.
Here, I live in Newmarket New Hampshire. Stop by any time and I'll play it for you. No, not a joke. I will play if for you. Granted it won't sound EXACTLY like the album, but they can't EXACTLY do it either.
Now, on another note. Did I not state that I liked BLOODTHIRST? I think that I did. DID I NOT SAY I LIKED THE BLEEDING? I think that I did.
Friends to back me up in insulting you? are you kidding? This isn't FSU. I get to have the privelege of insulting you all I want! I don't need backup it's too simple.
Choatic is the only way to describe it. At no point would I sit down and think to myself "You know, let's make a song that doesn't folow a scale, time sequence, or order. Instead, Let's write a song that involves half diminished scales, no scales, no following of the drums and have it sound good." That's some hard shit to do. and I use Chaotic because I"m not allowed to say things like "don't blow your rape whistle, you're only drawing attention to yourself. That's what this song is, an attention getter."
Pat is a great guitarist. I take nothing away from him. But, that particular song he wrote is BORING (not stupid like you claim again TRUTH to INTERPERTATION). And as for Jack... I have seen corpse twice. Once with Jack, once without. He brought more to the table than you think (15 years will do that). Hell, he plays COUNTRY for christ sakes. The more music styles you play, the better you are (Webster playes pretty much anything).
Think of it this way. Just because a song is boring doensn't make it stupid. and it's not a bad song. But, it sounds like a lot of their other songs and that makes it BORING.
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Post by 1:( on Jul 21, 2004 8:15:40 GMT -5
I think everything that can be said has been said here. There's no need to be a music elitist. If we like something you don't, don't take offense to it, unless you know, you're stupid or something. Which you most certainly are. Go back to Hitler's message board, asstard.
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Post by toddhascrabs on Jul 21, 2004 8:24:54 GMT -5
now as for you LordagathIscariot...
Morbid Angel is great. BUT THEY SUCK LIVE. THEY ARE TERRIBLE! About the only thing that was good about them live was their soloing. Trey is a great guitar player in any situation. But, you put multiple tracks down with only one guitarist and you sound like ass live. Everything sounded like mush. BOTH TIMES I SAW THEM.
As for Corpse, their soloing needs work. But, they remind me of Slayer. it's not about their solos but their riffs.
Pat is a good writer. But Webster is more my style. I like his work better than Pats ANYDAY.
And as for brutal guitar work.... Bloodthisrt BLOWS wrethed spawn out of the water when it comes to riffs. But I think after Bloodthirst, gore obsessed was a step back. Wrethed spawn was close, but it doesn't compare to Bloodthirst or the Bleeding. and remember, The Bleeding was done in Eb as opposed to Bb. So, to make an album sound that bad ass when you don't play it so downtuned is more respectable then playing a lower note (think of Korn).
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Post by Shevy on Jul 21, 2004 9:40:46 GMT -5
You people make me laugh lmao, People who use cutsy little acronyms like lmao and lol piss me off. Especially those who stick up for bands like Cannibal Corpse and Morbid Angel. Awesome. Be sure to tell all your friends about us. I think the problem lies in your unintelligent butchering of the English language. Then again, when you're Super Sizing fries at the drive-thru window, having decent writing skills isn't a top priority. I assume it would be as simple as hitting the button with the hamburger on it. I like Pat, and "brutal" is probably the most overused word in metal. You could use it when referring to black metal, death metal, grindcore, power metal, and polka. Please tell me what's so brutal about it. Responding with "d00d just fukkin listen to it lmao lol" doesn't cut it. Cannibal Corpse has been an exerise in banality for some time now (not including Live Cannibalism, which I actually consider to be one of the best all around live albums ever made). I could give a rat's ass how brutal it sounds. It's funny how Gorguts used to be a great band, but then they shat out a turd of an album called Obscura and everybody took notice and called them genius. And my god...Morbid Angel are the gods? Is that sarcasm? Gore Obsessed bored me to tears. I haven't even bothered listening to Wretched Spawn. If I'm spending money on music, I prefer to buy music that's actually worth listening to. I'll hear a few songs from the new one on the radio, but it sounds like absolutely nothing I'm interested in. |
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